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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Ven 12 Juin 2009, 18:10 | |
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corn_&_python


Age: 19 Nombre de messages: 3154 Ville: AU PARADIS
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Ven 12 Juin 2009, 18:14 | |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Ven 12 Juin 2009, 18:19 | |
| Merci!  |
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Heidi


Age: 42 Nombre de messages: 748 Ville: Ouest de Mtl
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Ven 12 Juin 2009, 20:22 | |
| Amazing snakes! We don't see that very often around here. |
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bistrobob85

Age: 26 Nombre de messages: 1543 Ville: Saint-Lambert
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Sam 13 Juin 2009, 09:58 | |
| It really sucks that you're so far from here, i'd really love to get some ladder snakes... Babies are always so beautiful... Congratulations!!!!
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Manu ADF


Age: 38 Nombre de messages: 6377 Ville: Sherbrooke
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Dim 14 Juin 2009, 01:04 | |
| Very nice picts...    www.canada-reptiles.com  Life's journey is not to arrive in heaven safely in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting, ''Holly shit....what a ride!'' |
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cowboy xav

Age: 22 Nombre de messages: 3407 Ville: Sherbrooke
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Dim 14 Juin 2009, 08:57 | |
| these are amazing  congratulation, it's the first time that I see breeding pictures of R.scalaris  is it frequent that the female eat the male during breeding  |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Dim 14 Juin 2009, 10:25 | |
| Thank you everyone for the nice comments. Over here (UK) they don't attract much interest, people are usually drawn towards brighter more 'attractive' snakes. They say "beauty is in the eye of the beholder", well I must be dull enough for me to see the beauty in this species. Hi reptilX, firstly may I congratulate you on your taste in music, nuff spek dude! Early Black Sabbath, are a favourite of mine too. Ahhh, are you refering to the first picture? That is actually the male biting the female during copulation, they do this to aid them in positioning for alignment (as do many other species of snake, the 'copulatory bite' as it is known is employed by many ratsnakes also). Usually the bite is placed around the head or neck, my male is young and inexperienced, so he bit her around a third of the way down the body! Silly snake, as the second picture shows, he also missed with his 'gift of life'.  An especially silly snake.  |
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Nir Chargé de Section


Age: 26 Nombre de messages: 1155 Ville: Sherbrooke
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Dim 14 Juin 2009, 17:24 | |
| Thank you very much for sharing these pictures with us!! Ladder Snakes are definately a beautiful ratsnake species!! The babies are exeptionnaly colourful!
I searched a lot for them when I was in France last Summer but had no luck with that species... |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Dim 14 Juin 2009, 18:01 | |
| I would love the opportunity to look for them in the wild... I'm hoping next year sometime. I should be posting some more pictures soon of some eggs from this same female, she hasn't shed yet but she looks full of eggs. If we get some good weather next weekend, I may be able to take some pictures of the babies from last years eggs (which are pictured above).  |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Dim 14 Juin 2009, 18:13 | |
| In the mean time, here's some of the male  Here's one of him in mid hiss...  Here's one of the female doing the same...  One of her flattening her head, really exaggerating the dimensions of the head, presumably making them appear larger, possibly making them appear to have a 'triangular head' shape, maybe to give the impression that their bite is more dangerous than it actually is (totally harmless).  A profile and body shot  Once in a while, female scalaris can retain or partially retain their juvenile patterning and to varying degrees, their colouration. Many are born silver, only later to complete the ontogenetic transformation into the usual adult colouration and patterning seen above. Here is one such female that I had, she passed away at around 14 yrs old, due to smoke inhalation from an electrical fire I had. I really miss this snake. ...and yes, she really was a silver as she appears.  |
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Louthecat


Age: 45 Nombre de messages: 3 Ville: Lelystad
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Lun 16 Aoû 2010, 02:07 | |
| Hi, Finally, someone that keeps this species ! I have a 2 year old female and I'm trying to find a male... but that proves to be very very difficult ! Regards |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Lun 16 Aoû 2010, 03:59 | |
| That's unfortunate that you live over the water, I have a few for sale now and some eggs in the incubator. Rhinechis scalaris 9   Rhinechis scalaris 13  Rhinechis scalaris 14     All three are female, Number 9 was hatched on 01/11/08, both 13 & 14 were hatched on 31/10/08. They are still quite small due to being brumated during both winters for around 4 months. They should now start their growth spurt ‘proper’, as they are on small mice and all eat with gusto, if left in peace to eat. Rhinechis scalaris 09/03  Rhinechis scalaris 09/05   Rhinechis scalaris 09/06   09/03 was hatched on 31/08/09 and both 09/05 & 09/06 were hatched on 01/09/09. I have at least 4 good eggs (there are another two that I presume mould will get the better of) in the incubator too, my old female (around 19years old now) laid 13 eggs, unfortunately I didn't discover them straight away (I was away for a few days) and most of them dried out. I hadn't really expected her to lay this year as I hadn't made any concerted effort to breed from them. The male was introduced but only over a few days and copulation wasn't witnessed. |
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Louthecat


Age: 45 Nombre de messages: 3 Ville: Lelystad
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Lun 16 Aoû 2010, 04:12 | |
| Hi there, You don't happen to be coming over to Holland for the annual snake-day in Houten this year, are you ?  |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
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Louthecat


Age: 45 Nombre de messages: 3 Ville: Lelystad
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Lun 16 Aoû 2010, 10:30 | |
| That would be great, thanks for your trouble. One male would do just fine  . My female scalaris still has this greyish colour, but she's turning more yellow-brown as she gets older. I only know of one other person who keeps this species. He's the guy I got my female scalaris from. He has a group of 10 or so of this species, some adult, some juvenile. He breeds them quite succesfully, like you do, but he almost never sells any of them. |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Lun 16 Aoû 2010, 11:21 | |
| Last year this old female, laid two clutches, producing over twenty young. There doesn't seem to be many people keeping this species presently, some twenty years or so ago, they were quite popular. I suppose that's a reflection of availability of many more species, morphs and present day interest. Unfortunately, this is seldom in European species, more's the pity. I presently have three adults, 3 young and the other six young are to be sold. I once had many more, I lost them to the effects of an electrical fire, from smoke inhalation. I have a 1.2 trio of adults, the other female so far has not produced any young, or even eggs. I think she will need to 'mature' more first, she will be 4 years old next year. It seems age doesn't present much of a problem with this species. A friend of mine (Roger Butler), has a female of over twenty two years old and still produces fertile clutches. Lets hope your female produces some clutches in the future too! :-) I'll get back to you soon regarding getting a young male to you via Houten, I may pass the animal on to someone who has a table there, so it will be a case of finding that seller and asking for the snake, which will be reserved for you.  Give me a day or two to organise this please. Would be nice to help a fellow R. scalaris keeper. |
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yan


Age: 39 Nombre de messages: 1590 Ville: la jungle
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Lun 16 Aoû 2010, 16:16 | |
| wow very nice snake,..  |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Lun 16 Aoû 2010, 16:52 | |
| Merci!  |
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bistrobob85

Age: 26 Nombre de messages: 1543 Ville: Saint-Lambert
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Mar 17 Aoû 2010, 00:38 | |
| Wow, this is very interesting  . I love R.scalaris!!!! Over here, mine is totally berserk and cute  . She's still pretty small, though. I can't wait to get her an unrelated male!!!! phil. |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Mar 17 Aoû 2010, 03:38 | |
| Yes, they do tend to be on the 'berserk' side of normality. My adults are usually a little more so.  Glad you enjoyed the post. |
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bistrobob85

Age: 26 Nombre de messages: 1543 Ville: Saint-Lambert
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Ven 20 Aoû 2010, 21:40 | |
| How's the popularity for those guys on your side of the ocean? Over here, they seem fairly underated...
phil. |
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devboy


Age: 44 Nombre de messages: 30 Ville: UK
 | Sujet: Re: Rhinechis scalaris at it again... Sam 21 Aoû 2010, 02:51 | |
| | bistrobob85 a écrit: | How's the popularity for those guys on your side of the ocean? Over here, they seem fairly underated...
phil. |
They aren't that popular, it seems internationally that Cornsnakes, Ball/Royal Pythons and Boa constrictor species are at the top of the popularity lists. European ratsnakes tend to be somewhere at the bottom of everyone's 'must get' snakes. It seems that even though in modern days of keeping, we have greater opportunity for diversity in our collections, the tendency for conformity prevails. Its a shame, eventually market forces could reduce people who are interested in the unusual animals in their collections to such numbers that the unusual isn't bred in future. |
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